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Five Years Later, Have Opinions Changed on NIL?

NIL, otherwise known as Name, Image, and Likeness, officially became legalized in the United States in July, 2021. Fast-forward five years later there are still constant changes and opinions floating around one of the biggest changes in college sports. Many people whether they are former athletes, current coaches, or working in compliance are impacted by NIL and have opinions on the hot topic that is NIL.

Dylan Hoy

Dylan Hoy, is a former middle infielder from Marist University where he spent the first four seasons of his collegiate career. At Marist, he had a career batting average of .261, six home runs, and 65 RBI’s.

Hoy’s time at Marist ran from 2020-2023 therefore his first two seasons at Marist, NIL did not exist. The last two years, Marist did not really get involved with NIL.

Image – Marist Athletics

After a successful career at Marist, he transferred to the University of Louisville. In his lone season at Louisville, he hit .317, five home runs and 30 RBI’s. At Louisville, that was where Hoy got to tap into this new world of college sports and earn NIL deals.

 “We did have NIL and I was fortunate enough to get some myself, but it’s definitely picked up since I’ve finished playing. I think The first year of it was like that 2021 -2022 season, but not many people were getting it right. I was still at Marist, but not many power five schools really getting it. Then once I went to Louisville for 2024 season, like it really picked up then. So it was kind of towards the end of my career that that I was able to receive some.”
After his playing career, Hoy joined Louisville’s staff as a graduate assistant where his team got to the College World Series. Currently, he is an assistant baseball coach with Army West Point.

NIL, Player to Coach

Hoy has gotten to experience NIL now both from a player and coach’s perspective.

Honestly, I feel like I have a pretty pretty knowledgeable view on it now from being a coach. But when I was a player, I definitely viewed it as a negative in a sense, because I was like, hey, dudes are just going for the money, whatever. But now looking at it through a coaching lens and you’re kind of seeing and realizing, you know, how much these kids are really working, right? They’re basically having a job, right? School and baseball or school and their sport is really their job. Do I think the NIL is a little bit out of hand, like with the amount that people are getting? Absolutely, because I think a scholarship is plenty, but. I do understand the reasoning for NIL, but I definitely don’t think that this amount of money should be present and allowed for some athletes. I think personally, I think there should be a cap on each program. I think there should be a cap on each player on how much they can receive.”

NIL’s Impact on Conference Gap According To Hoy

 “You’re always going to have differentiated values for each player. I think some players should get more than others, but it shouldn’t be allowed to get $5 million versus $100,000. If we capped it at, hey, the most the player can make is a hundred grand per year. I think that’d be fair because you’re starting to see these programs with X amount of donors, just because more people like their program, right. You work for certain things and some places have different fans, but I think that just creates such a distinct barrier between each program. Like people are talking about, oh, you know, ACC is different than SEC, SEC is different than the MAAC. But especially now, like with the whole NIL situation, it’s definitely, you’re seeing a difference.

Scott MacDonald San Jose State

Scott MacDonald is the Senior Deputy AD for External Operations (Sport Admin for FB, WGOLF, S&D) at San Jose State University. Similarly to Hoy, MacDonald was a student athlete but long before NIL was a thing.

 “I wish we had NIL when I was a student athlete so I think it’s great. I think it provides an opportunity not just for student athletes to earn money off their name image and likeness but also to learn, like real skills and taxes. One of the things we do know when our Beyond Spartans program which is our life skills program here at San Jose State, we provide that information and that education to our students. Like your earning money and you’ll be paying taxes on it and here we have institutions that come in and talk about Investments and saving and how to prepare for taxes.  I think it’s really added to what we provide for student athletes because taxes isn’t something we would ever have but in a life skills program before.”

Image – San Jose Spartans

Amy Hughes Georgia Southern

Unlike Hoy and MacDonald, Amy Hughes was not a former collegiate athlete. She is currently the Director of Athlete Brand Management and Licensing at Georgia Southern. NIL created her job of where she is today.

“So in 2022, I moved into athletics and assumed, you know, both roles, basically. I didn’t know anything about NIL, you know, but I, had taught on college campuses. So, our athletic director and COO of athletics, they just really thought that I could jump in and, you know, help build this program. It was a quickly built program and it’s been evolving ever since. So, it’s changed in a way that, obviously, I’m more focused on what’s happening in the NIL landscape. I’m very into tune with, you know, all of the NCAA stuff that’s happening, and I work closely with our compliance, folks. Um, but it’s been really fun and exciting. You know, it’s a new way to connect with our student athletes, so I really enjoyed it.”

Hughes Opinion on NIL

Image – Georgia Trend Magazine

 “I think NIL in its truest form is wonderful because, at the end of the day, like, at D1, they’re either in class or they’re working out or they’re focused on nutrition. They’re practicing, traveling for games, and they have such little time. Having a part time job is just nearly impossible.”
And so a lot of these student athletes, like, it’s a game changer for them to be able to earn some money, you know, whether it be, um, you know, they can, I don’t know, we, like, fix their car, get new tires, or they can buy a plane ticket to go home over the break, or, you know, just kind of take some of the pressure off of their families that help support them here while they’re going to college. And so all of that’s really cool. Um, You know, we’re not in a situation like some of the P4 schools where you have athletes that are just, you know, making millions of dollars. Like it’s just stupid and crazy fun, you know, great fun.
I also think that it helps prepare them. You know, I always approach it. So, like, the other night, when I was teaching them about personal branding and just getting them to a spot where they can become influencers and things like that. With NIL, you know, I always take the approach that this is like professional development for you. This is gonna help you learn to communicate in a professional way with brands, marketing yourself and we worked on elevator pitches. That’s all those skills are gonna help, you know, with them, you know, being able to land an internship or a job down the road. And so, you know, we approach it as it’s more than just about the money. It’s how we can develop them.”

Jace Friesen Kansas State

“You know, there was a lot of collectives that originally started up when NIL became a thing and you’d see four or five collectives at one institution. And the only problem with that is is it created a lot of donor confusion. You didn’t know where to give, who to give to. And then also on top of that, there’s really no way to track to see what student athletes were getting paid. You know, you might have had a top student athlete at one institution getting paid from four different collectives, and you’d have the number two on the roster, not be getting, you know, anything in theory because there’s no communication. So you know, NIL has created this ecosystem. groups that have allowed for revenue share for student athletes and institutions to kind of get on the same page and really help your student athletes in a cohesive ecosystem.”

“I think it’s impacted in a lot of ways. and personally, from my experience, I would say from a student athlete’s perspective for the better. you know, there’s. There’s negatives. There’s pros and cons to everything. You know, you see some of the outliers or kids transferring, turning, you know, keeping away from the pay for play. But I think longevity, at least at Kansas State, it’s given kids or student athletes, the opportunity to become financially secure or start learning about the real world. We did financial literacy classes. We did, you know, we helped out with taxes, we provide student athletes with resources for investing.”

Image – 247 Sports

“I think that without NIL, some of those initiatives and programs wouldn’t be in place, at least again at Kansas State. It’s stuff that I wish I would have gotten in a more detailed level while I was at Kansas State. But it’s provided, I think, more literacy and benefits at Kansas State for sure.”

“Now, I’m not sure what the case is with revenue sharing. I wouldn’t be surprised if every institution pretty much every student athlete isn’t getting some cut. Walk-ons you’d be surprised, a lot of businesses will reach out wanting to do work with specific athletes. Or they’ll want to do the doings with like an art case. We have a lot of Kansas student athletes and typically some of those student athletes are walk-ons. Kansas business would like to work with of kids. And so a lot of times you’ll actually see the walk-ons, getting a good amount of deals as well. We help them position themselves through social media training, just how it position themselves in social media, get more followers, more eyes. You know, we don’t trade it any different than a deal for our starting point guard or our starting quarterback. You know, this deal is just kind of trickle in by just naturally, and they all kind of trickle down through throughout that process.”

Summary

There are many strong opinions about NIL. Although most of the opinions are positive, there is a clear need changed need to be  made to the processes within the NIL. Be on the lookout for the next article on this series as we keep exploring the coaches and players that make up the NIL!

The next article will hear from people about how NIL is directly impacting college sports.

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Brian Ramos is a contributor on Back Sports Page. Along with receiving his B.A. in Sports Communications, he has over six years of experience in the sports industry and has interviewed a variety of people in the sports industry, such as Daniel Jones, Tommy DeVito, Mac McClungJulius RandleBobby Portis, Don La Greca, Adam Schefter, James and Trevor van Riemsdyk, and others. In addition to writing, Ramos has called women’s lacrosse and baseball on ESPN+. Ramos has a podcast on YouTube called Cut The Nets, along with his co-host Jeremy Gretzer. You can find Brian on Instagram at @Brian.ramos0219 and Twitter at @brianramos0219.

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